Tuesday 8th November 2011
Dear Iain Wright, M.P.
Thank you once again for your letter and the Attachments from Malcolm Dawson O.B.E. Chief Land Registrar and Chief Executive of Land Registry, containing some 12 pages of which some 51 individual paragraphs, unfortunately it is just a rehash of most of my points previously raised with Elizabeth Derrington. Land Registry Complaints Reviewer, containing, at best , contradictory , confusing and doubtful statements .in my opinion a Whitewash” with unexpected twists and turns, cleverly disguised misinformation and hidden motives to totally avoid my Serious Allegations of Corruption and Criminality at Land Registry, Durham, and the Fraudulent claims of Property Ownership have been Totally Avoided, Ignored and " most certainly" have "NOT" been Investigated,
Elizabeth Derrington. Land Registry Complaints Reviewer, you may recall, awarded me £300, and an
Apology, for "Mistakes" made by Land Registry, Durham,. "which I refused to accept" , and I Returned the £300, to Land Registry, until such time when they addressed my Ownership Concerns. I am still waiting ? She did however admit that deciding Property “Ownership” was “NOT” in her "Remit".
I once again repeat that Alan H Smith, Assistant Land Registrar, Durham, acted “Unlawfully “ neither he nor any other employee of Land Registry have any legal authority to
(a) Offer any Legal advice to a member of the Public.
(b) Can decide who is the Legal Owner of any “Registered” Land and Property
That is I Believe a matter for the Law Courts.
Malcolm Dawson OBE in his letter does NOW Confirm that "Julie Jenkins" is the Head of Fraud at Land Registry, as she stated on the B.B.C. News Programme
"LAND REGISTRY TOO OPEN TO FRAUD"
When She made the following declaration, on Monday 30th March 2009
(This Broadcast was latter Confirmed to me after I submitted a F.O.I. request to the B.B.C.)
See my F.O.I. Requests on WhatDoTheyKnow)
"We need to ensure there's a balance between Protecting the individual and Protecting the Property and that's what we're here to do,“ Protect People's Assets "One of the Most Important Assets they've Got"
It was my understanding of that Broadcast that Land Registry also told the B.B.C.
That it had an Aggressive "Anti-Fraud" Policy and Stated that Land Registry has paid out £36 Million
Pounds in Compensation for Mistakes and Fraud since 2005, and suggested that "ANY" Allegations
of Land or Property Fraud should be Reported to "JULIE JENKINS" Head of Fraud at Land Registry
A Position as Head of Fraud ) Land Registry had previously “Denied “ even Existed , at least that is what I was led to believe when I attempted , on a number of Occasions in the Past to Report Property Fraud to
"Julie Jenkins" Head of Fraud, which I find very difficult to understand, ?
( See my F.O.I. Requests on the WHATDOTHEYKNOW internet site.)
I was also led to Believe that Land Registry had a Duty to Report or were Obliged to Report "ANY"Allegations of Property Fraud from the General Public , to the Police, it is Obvious in My Case that Land Registry have failed to fulfill their Obligation and Duty, ? Strange, but True ?
It Cannot be Unreasonable to Enquire whether that has happened before and why was my allegations of Fraud ignored.? Was it because it involved Officers of Land Registry Durham, themselves.? Should it not now be reported. in a Formal Complaint to both the Chief Constables of Durham and Cleveland,?
By me the innocent victim of this Criminal act. ? Or should I complete the Parliamentary and Health Service Complaint form kindly sent to me by my Member of Parliament Iain Wright M.P. which must be signed by a Member of Parliament to the Parliamentary Ombudsman.? I will need time to decide, but I am determined to continue
Another very important statement in the letter of reply from Malcolm Dawson O.B.E. which should be Noted and Recorded which I personally find quite Unbelievable and Highly Suspicious, and some people might even find it a very Convenient answer and explanation in answer to my Serious Allegations of Criminality Negligence and Incompetence, by playing what could be called a
“Get out of Jail Free Card”
when he states that the 1972 transfer plan, (is this a Survey ? ) prepared by the local Authorities Engineer and Surveyor (No name) but in my opinion can only be B.R.Davies B.S.c. the Hartlepool Councils Senior Engineer and Chief Surveyor, who held that position in 1972, had recently been “Converted to a Digital Format” as part of the National Programme and the “Original” transfer plan had been “Destroyed” However Malcolm Dawson's OBE letter goes on to say,
there is “NO” reason to doubt the Authenticity of the “Copy”. ? WHY, ?
It is in Direct Conflict with other Survey Documents by B.R. Davies B.S.c
I very much DOUBT that the above Questionable Statement by Malcolm Dawson’s OBE that the “Original” Survey Documents had been “Destroyed” and there is “NO” Reason to Doubt the “Authenticity” of the “Copy” Would be Accepted as the Definitive Truth by a High Court Judge in a Court of Law, without
(a) being made under oath and
(b) tested by counter argument and cross examination by the other party,
One Might Reasonably also ask “Why” if this “Authentic Copy” was available, was it “NOT” Produced to me in the Original B141 application in October 2008, instead of the Photo Stat
" Copy" of Part of an Engineering Drawing from the office of B.R,Davies ,Stamped and Dated 1971, of the General Area when "Both" Properties where in the Ownership, of Hartlepool Borough Council. including other pieces of paper Claiming Ownership of Part of My Outbuildings which also included the Two (2) Coloured Photographs of an Outside Toilet and Various other "Unofficial"
Photo-Sats of the General Area of West-View. Hartlepool.
All of the above I Rejected as "NONE" were "Official Copies" just pieces of Paper, Unbeilable ?
Why was it "NOT" Recorded or Shown on the "Official" Original Land Title Deeds DU 37533 "Registered" by Hartlepool Borough Council in 1972. when "BOTH" Land Title Deeds ,Including
Land Title Deeds CE 74844 "Absolute" were Independently Examined for Validity in August 2008. ( Some 36 years "AFTER" the "Registration of Title " in 1972.) very Strange ?
according to the Land Registration Act 2002 , Guidance Notes, you only have 30 Days to Officially "Register" your Title,
Why was it "NOT" Included and Shown or Recorded on the "Official Copy" of the "Register of Title which showed "ALL" Entries in the Register of Title on the 9th October 2008, timed at
10.55.27. Issued by Land Registry on 10th October 2008. Which very Clearly States That :-
Under s. 67 Of the Land Registration Act 2002, This " Official Copy" is Admissible in
Evidence to the Same Extent as the "Original" Title number CE 74844 Title "Absolute"
Filed 29th March 1984.
Proprietorship Register :- This "Register" Specifies the Class of Title "Absolute" and Identifies
the "OWNER" it Contains "ANY" Entries that Effect the Right of Disposal
I wonder what they will do or say to get of the hook this time ?
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I also find it very confusing and very difficult to accept that after over Three (3) years of protest at this Injustice to Land Registry, Durham, and following the recent intervention of Malcolm Dawson OBE,
Lo and Behold a “Copy” of an “Original” Survey Plan which had been “Destroyed “ was suddenly Discovered, would "NOT" a Authentic Copy of an Original Survey Drawing be a Facsimile
of the "Original" , and will it be produced in a Court of Law, ?
Might I ask where was it Found, behind a Radiator or in a Toilet perhaps ?
Would it not Make "ANY" Reasonable Sensible Person a little Suspicious, after all I had Previously Receive paperwork from Land Registry of a highly questionable nature, there is certainly a very fishy smell coming out of Land Registry ,Durham.
It is of Paramount Importance in the interest of Justice and Fair Play to Remember that if one was to accept the claim of Malcolm Dawson’ OBE ,that there was no reason to doubt as Authentic and Proof of “Ownership” the “Copy” of the 1972 transfer plan, ( with no name of the Surveyor and therefore questionable qualifications) after the “Original” was “Destroyed ( this it must be remembered is only his presumption and opinion ) it casts Substantial doubts on the Honesty and Integrity of “ALL” the Elected Hartlepool Councillors who signed the Pre-Purchase Council House Property Sale Documents
including the Town Mayor J Jones. Which I find totally "Disgraceful", "Unacceptable" it
Will and Must be Challenged.
This is one more Devious and Suspicious Document issued by Land Registry, Durham , who don't report any potentially criminal fraudulent acts to the Police., if it involves any allegations of wrongdoing by their own employees, I have had a number of previous documents that no-one in his right mind would consider as definitive proof of “Ownership” now we have this ludicrous situation, is it to save face, can Land Registry a Government Department be allowed to just say, the Survey drawings were “Destroyed” job done. This is arrogance , it says to me that Land Registry Durham,” We can walk on water, you have no voice “?
You have no right to appeal our decision, unless your try for a Judicial Review, which Andrew Schofield, Office Manager had told me, could involve very, very substantial costs ? That to a 79 year old pensioner, on a limited private pension. Who had the “Audacity” to Complain, If that is not intimidation, I don’t know what is, ?
This is one more experience of injustice from a Government and Public Authority which makes the” Laughable” claim that if you “Register” your Property with us you know it will be safe ? My Property was “Registered” in 1984, so much for Land Registry’s claim a
“Registered” Land Title is “Guaranteed” ?
There are Millions of People who purchased Property by “Mortgage” as we did, who worked to pay off
the “Mortgage” in addition to all the legal fee’s and costs, are under the impression that their Property legally purchased, “Conveyed” and “Registered” is safe, they may even think their property was “Sacrosanct” , they may well have Serious doubts now, particularly if you live in the North-East
of England and do "NOT" have the Financial Clout of a Government Authority to protect your financial investment.?
What Really Disgusts me is the fact that such Unbelievable and I personally believe Dishonest Statements are made to protect Dishonest Government Officers , who know that individual members of the General Public in Particular Pensioners, cannot afford Expensive Legal Teams ,they all loose out, "NOT"
because they were Wrong, but because there was enough Cash stacked against them to Ensure that the Reputations of those Guilty of Incompetence or Wrongdoing were saved.
(a)
Those questionable statements also brings into question the Honesty, Competence and Legal Integrity of “ALL” involved in the Selling and Buying of Council House Property,
The "BUYERS" Solicitors, LEVINSON WALKER and LISTER
The "SELLERS" Solicitors, Hartlepool Chief Solicitor , J Anthony Brown,
who legally "Conveyed" and “Registered “ and Recorded the Purchase on Title Deeds CE 74844, “Absolute” with Land Registry, Durham on 29th March 1984.
Where they "all " Criminally Incompetent and Unfit for Office, I don’t think so.
(b)
It casts Doubts on the Honesty and Integrity of “ALL” the Elected Hartlepool Councillors who signed the Pre-Purchase Council House Property Sale Documents, including the Town Mayor J Jones.
(c )
In addition it "MUST" question the Honesty, Integrity and Competence and can Only Muddy the Professional Reputation of the Senior Engineer and Chief Surveyor of Hartlepool Borough Council, B.R. Davies, B.S.c, who was Responsible for"ALL" Surveys and "Property Searches Regarding Council House Sales "NO" Council Hose Sales including Property Surveys could have been Conducted without "HIS" Knowledge and Authority, as Chief Engineer and Senior Surveyor for Hartlepool Borough Council, he would have been fully aware of all Land and Property details Record on Title Deeds DU 37533 prior to sale in 1972.
(d)
Am I also to Accept that R.B. Davies B.S.c. Senior Engineer and Chief Surveyor of Hartlepool
Borough Council, was so "Incompetent" that he would have "Forgotten" and Completely failed to Re-Discover in his Records , a Previous Search and Survey Report he had Completed in Respect of the Pre-Purchase Council House Sale with Details, Recorded on Land Title Deeds DU 37533 in 1972.
While Conducting the Pre-Purchase Search and Survey Report No. M44684, in September 1983, on behalf of the "SELLERS" Hartlepool Borough Council, prior to the Sale of Council House Property and "ALL" details Surveyed Recorded on Land Title Deeds CE 74844 "Absolute"
(c )
Supported by the “Hand Written Property Survey Report” for the attention of the “Buyers” Solicitors “Levinson Walker & Lister “ of Hartlepool, Confirming that “ALL” the Land and Property Surveyed was “Recorded” and all “Details” on Land Title Deeds CE 74844 “Absolute” had been “Checked” and were “Validated” as “Correct” dated September 1983.
(d)
I wish to draw your attention to the following tribute to the Rt.Hon. Lord Denning. The Lord Chief Justice, His appeal Court Ruling, January 12,13,24, 1956 was,
“No Court in this land will allow a person to keep an advantage which he has obtained by Fraud. No judgment of a Court, No order of a Minister, can be allowed to stand if it has been Obtained by "Fraud"
Fraud Unravels Everything
In the words of another Former Lord Chief Justice Gordon Hewart
“ It is of Fundamental Importance that "Justice Should Not Only be Done, but should Manifestly and “Undoubtedly be Seen to be Done "
Elizabeth Derrington is merely there to defend the land registry. She is funded by the land registry and seconds her staff from the land registry. She looked at the minor aspects of our complaint but totally ignored our complaint of criminality! She awarded ourselves £350 a complete insult and the cheque still remains untouched, it was a complete farce.
ReplyDeleteChristopher Barrs
Hi Chris,
DeleteSounds very similar to my treatment from Elizabeth Derrington, she also apoligised and awarded me £300, which I returned to Land Registry,like you,I was disgusted,she claimed that deciding Ownership was NOT in her Remit, and closed the Investigation ?
THAT WAS IT ? I know its not in Land Registry's Legal Remit to decide ownership of any Property, or to alter any of the Entries in the Register of Title,of any Freehold Land and Property,Purchased,Conveyed, Transfered,Registered and Filed by the Sellers of the Property in both the Property and Proprietorship Registers,that's why I will not stop, until my legally purchased Freehold Property, illegally built on without my permission or Hartlepool Council Planning Authority is returned to my Ownership,even if it means the illegal extension preventing my safe use of our outbuildings has to be demolished, The Assistant Land Registrar Alan H Smith, and his colleques in Land Registry Durham acted Unlawfully when accepting a Coloured Photograph as definative registered proof of Purchase and Ownership, ? Unbelievable, yet Elizabeth
Derrington,can only apologise and close her,wait for it, Independant Investigations, while Malcolm Dawson O.B.E. can only through his hands in the air, and say they have destroyed the Original Plans, but a Authentic Copy survived, not you will note "An Official Copy" which cannot be accepted as true, because to do so, would discredit Completly the honesty and Integraty of both my Solicitors, Levinson Walker and Lister when we purchased the Property and J Anthony Brown,the Chief Solicitor acting on behalf of the Sellers of the Prtoperty, Hartlepool Borough Council.
Is there any wonder Hartlepool Borough Council are reluctant to answer my Freedom of Information Requests,they are all in it together, they will deny everthing, to protect their guilty colleques ?
will they win--I doubt it, I intend lke you ,to continue to expose these thieving scoundrels.
More still to Come, Watch this Space if you are interested in Fair Play ?
When you say they have destroyed the original plans, the land registry seem very adept at destroying documents that they wish to conceal. When we first started our complaint against the land registry(prior to learning of the suppression of evidence) we asked for certain documents from Julie Jones (customer services Plymouth land registry). She was very reluctant to send some of the paperwork and it took much cajoling to get copies from her. She assured us that she was dealing with our request but, in her words "her investigations had led her to find that there were many related files in many different locations" that was November. By December she had changed her story to "all files were stored electronically and all hard copy destroyed". They constantly lie and cheat in an attempt to cover their tracks. You and I cannot be isolated cases, there must be many of us out there who have been cheated by the filthy dirty corrupt criminals that operate as the land registry. Exposure of corruption is very popular at the moment (hacking, hillsborough) perhaps now is the time to push harder.
ReplyDeleteChris Barrs
Hi Chris,
DeleteI agree , we all try to expose these scoundrels,
These reported allegations of Criminality in Land Registry ? Should now act as a wake-up call for hundreds if not tens of thousands of decent Mortgage paying People, who had previously thought they were unaffected by the Criminality which exists in the Offices of Land Registry, which I and others like yourself have previously reported, are now starting to be Concerned that their Registered Freehold Land and Property, they Purchased , had Transferred by their Solicitors, Registered and Filed in the Property and Proprietorship Registers at Land Registry , are not as safe as they Thought, nor is their Ownership Guaranteed as previously Stated by Land Registry under the Land Registration Act 2002,